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Pro/Con: Gay Marriage

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LAWLzoR
, 07-03-2013 at 01:59 PM (1586 Views)
This has been a very sensitive topic for a long time. Remember, this is a blog, not a political machine. I don't mean to force my beliefs onto others, I simply mean to bring to light what is true. So here we go.

Pro:
People will be on equal ground (Equality)
-During the 50s and 60s, there was a sensitive topic called "inter-racial marriage". However, as you can see, it's no longer an issue because now it's legal. Some people may disagree with it and personally that's fine. However since the only opposition to it was generally that of religion it would be unconstitutional for the law banning inter-racial marriage to be ratified. The United State of America cannot favor a religion when it comes to law because then it would be mixing church and state. Same goes for gay marriage. It would be unconstitutional for law banning gay marriage to be ratified, because the government of the United State of America is not allowed to favor a religion. Even in the Treat of Tripoli that was made during the time of the USA's Founding Fathers, in Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, in the very first sentence it reads "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,"

Really equality is either the strongest, or only thing I can think of with pros. Now let me list (and debunk) the cons.

Con:
It would undermine the institution of marriage
-Says who? Have the people who said this ever done any research on this? Of course not. That's why there's no credible proof that it would undermine the institution of marriage. As Hank Green famously said, this is a "hypothetheory". It's a hypothesis that has been untested but has been declared true, thus making it a "theory" (I take this time to inform our readers that "theory" in science means that it has been proven).

It's Adam and Eve, not Adam Steve/Bible says One Man and One Woman/But God said.../But Jesus said...
-I restate that making any laws that favor religion is unconstitutional. Separation of church and state and whatnot. Now for "But God/Jesus said..." Okay, you wanna go with the Bible? The Bible is forever changing between denominations of Christianity. But if you insist. The Bible also says not to wear clothes that mix cloths. It also says that married women must please their man, and obey to his whim, and that if your daughter gets raped, the rapists pays you several silver coins (or whatever the equivalent of today would be) and he gets to marry your daughter. You know why? Because at the time of the Bible, women were property. This is literally the "You break it, you buy it" rule going on.

I know the second part of my con list seems like an atheistic rant and to some extent it is, but realize that I'm only disproving the supposed "cons" of gay-marriage.

And as always, dont' forget to be awesome
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  1. GonadTheNomad's Avatar
    Impossible to forget.
  2. Spars's Avatar
    I agree with you about not making laws around religion, we can't do that, ala freedom of religion, but saying this country wasn't built off of Christianity is completely false. It was built from Christianity, and that is why in the Pledge it's "one nation under God", etc etc. it may not run off of Christianity now but it was built off of it.
  3. GonadTheNomad's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Batman4Real
    I agree with you about not making laws around religion, we can't do that, ala freedom of religion, but saying this country wasn't built off of Christianity is completely false. It was built from Christianity, and that is why in the Pledge it's "one nation under God", etc etc. it may not run off of Christianity now but it was built off of it.
    o.o

    The under god part was added during the cold war in a campaign of propaganda against "Godless" communism by 'Murica, same with the god complex on currency.
    Updated 07-03-2013 at 09:18 PM by GonadTheNomad
  4. LAWLzoR's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Batman4Real
    I agree with you about not making laws around religion, we can't do that, ala freedom of religion, but saying this country wasn't built off of Christianity is completely false. It was built from Christianity, and that is why in the Pledge it's "one nation under God", etc etc. it may not run off of Christianity now but it was built off of it.
    Read what Fourth said.
    I also have a theory. Since most of the Founding Fathers were either deists, or weak Christians, it doesn't seem likely it was built off of Christianity. Sure, it's against the law to kill someone, but that doesn't mean they added it because it was Christian. I'm not saying you're implying this, but atheists and non-religious people have morals too :/
  5. GonadTheNomad's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by LAWLzoR
    "Under God" wasn't added until the 1950's, same with "In God We Trust" on coinage.
    Da. /5char
  6. LAWLzoR's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fourth Gunnut
    Da. /5char
    Sorry. I edited my message. Didn't read what you typed >.<
  7. Spars's Avatar
    That doesn't change the fact that this country was built off of Christianity..

    Almost the entire US was Christians back then, we were built off of Christian migration for the most part, etc etc
  8. GonadTheNomad's Avatar
    But teh gubmint was free of religious bias.
  9. Noremac2100's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Batman4Real
    That doesn't change the fact that this country was built off of Christianity..

    Almost the entire US was Christians back then, we were built off of Christian migration for the most part, etc etc
    No your wrong. If this country was built off of Christian ideas then why in the constitution does it give us the right to worship as we choose of any religion or no religion?

    We didn't come to America for Christianity but the freedom of religion. Another thing a lot of the founding fathers were deist or the closest thing they had to atheists then. Some examples are Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

    No were in the constitution does it mention Jesus or Christianity anywhere but instead mention that you are free to worship any religion or no religion at all. I also guarantee that if this country was based on Christianity there would be no need to debate on drugs, gay marriage, and abortion.

    Saying this country was founded upon Christianity is just something Christians say in order to keep the social hierarchy they have created with Christians above all and everyone else below them
  10. LAWLzoR's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Batman4Real
    That doesn't change the fact that this country was built off of Christianity..

    Almost the entire US was Christians back then, we were built off of Christian migration for the most part, etc etc
    We were based off Christianity because we were originally settlers from Great Britain/England. Which at the time (and currently) Christianity was the dominant religion in not just the country, but the entire region of Europe. I'm not gonna say that we wouldn't be religious if we were originally Canadians (or any other nationality I suppose). But what we were based around doesn't matter. The USA got its start through slaves and massive amounts of agriculture. Does that mean we should have slaves and have the majority be farmers simply because that's how we grew up? It doesn't matter how we grew up, the government isn't allowed to mix church with state. No matter how you try to justify anything, it's unconstitutional to have gay marriage illegal (by the federal government). Banning guns is also unconstitutional, no matter how many people may want it.