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[KnotPoles]

I vote NO

[Spars]

Doesn't this make the same-space duel rule completely redundant?

Voting nay for now.

No, the same space rule still applies at sny time you are on the same space. You can have infinite space duels while this is only one per turn cycle and you can challenge anyone.

The space duel is also always for a static 52 points the winner gains. This is a gamble where the loser loses their points gambled and can be anywhere from 0 to 50. I really don't see how it makes anything redundant at all, it just adds more ways to play the game and earn points than proposals and grid wars.

[Juiz]

No, the same space rule still applies at sny time you are on the same space. You can have infinite space duels while this is only one per turn cycle and you can challenge anyone.

The space duel is also always for a static 52 points the winner gains. This is a gamble where the loser loses their points gambled and can be anywhere from 0 to 50. I really don't see how it makes anything redundant at all, it just adds more ways to play the game and earn points than proposals and grid wars.

Right but what I'm saying is it makes it redundant because I can challenge you from across the board now instead of having to specifically land on your space. While the frequency of possible dueling is lower for your proposal (once a rotation), it also carries the gain of making an enemy lose points. It's still too redundant to an existing rule for me to vote in favor of.

[Lohuydahutt]

Hmmm... actually yeah. I'll change my vote from aye to abstain for now. I'm open to voting aye, but I feel like it needs something else to make it either riskier for the user or more difficult to initiate.

[Kubby]

OK, so.

Log's proposal passed.

Spars turn is over, it's Juiz' turn. After that is me.

YN gains 1 section influence in ERBoh discussion, thus stealing it from Log.

Poles gains 1 section influence in ERBoH discussion.

Juiz gains 1 SI in Site Stuff, thus stealing it from Log.

Everyone gains 5 points, Poles gains 3 points for being last.

Here's payout for sections claimed:
Kubby: 9 points
Juiz: 8 points
YN: 6 points
Log: 9 points
Sparts: 8 points.

Spars proposal is still in voting with 1 aye and 2 nays.

[Juiz]

My proposal is to allow players to gift points, up to at max half of their current points. They can only gift points once per rotation.

[Kubby]

I'm putting it down as follows:

Each player can gift points to other players, once per turn rotation. A player cannot gift more than half of their current point total, nor can they gift less than 0 points.

Object to that phrasing if you think it changes the meaning of your proposal.

Vote ends on 8:45 PM Polish time, on 2019-07-19.

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I'm going to vote nay, mostly because the rule has a little game-breaking loophole. With this rule in place, not a single thing stops me from donating... let's look at the scoreboard... negative 825 points to someone in order to win.

Changes made to proposal. Voting Aye.

[Lohuydahutt]

OK yeah, explicitly forbidding gifting negative points would make this rule fine with me. I'll abstain for now though.

[Juiz]

I never had any intention of allowing gifting negative points as part of this rule, so yes, you can only gift positive points.

[Lohuydahutt]

OK yeah sure, aye. Not sure what's actually going to happen thanks to this rule but whatever.